Let's talk about the post-credits scenes of 'Ant-Man and The Wasp'

Written by: GameGulp Staff

Features, Film | Jul 9, 2018

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You might have guessed what happens during the post-credits scene of Ant-Man and The Wasp. But let's summarize it just the same.

Scott Lang as Ant-Man goes to the Quantum Realm to retrieve some really important stuff. Hank Pym advises Scott to be careful not to touch those time vortexes, cause, meddling with time is usually a bad thing, and Scott might get lost forever. When he retrieves those important stuff, no one from the normal universe is responding to him. It's implied Thanos' infamous snap in Avengers: Infinity War where he kills half of the universe's population has happened,

Personally I was hoping Scott would see his daughter, Cassie, turn to dust. There's an emotional punch to that. But I get why it's more important to toss him into the Quantum Realm.

What does this mean?

Obviously Scott is stuck in the Quantum Realm. He will most likely use those time vortexes to find a means of escape. If you've been followings news of the MCU, other publications were critical to point out that Avengers 4 will involve some sort of time travel, given the set images of the Chitauri invasion from the first Avengers and Steve Rogers having his old WWII uniform on.

Okay, so what does this mean?

With Scott appearing and probably doing something we never saw in the first movie, should be considered a nod to the fact that Ant-Man is a founding member of the Avengers in the comic The Avengers #1 released in 1963. 

It also means that, as reported by other publications through leaks, that the plot for Avengers 4 will be about re-collecting the Infinity Stones via time travel. Honestly, that's a bit far fetched and lazy writing if that's how things are going to roll.

Seriously, what does this mean?

Time travel will definitely be explored. There's a decent chance that Scott will meet the past Doctor Strange and somehow undo the clever trap the Sorcerer Supreme set up for Dormammu. (Admit it, it was pretty anti-climatic). More importantly, since it's almost confirmed-ish that there will be scenes from the Chitauri invasion, which was led by Loki. The Asgardian god of mischief that was killed-as-in-really-killed by Thanos. There's a fine chance that Marvel Studios will take this opportunity to resurrect-ish Loki via time travel. That means the possibility of more Tom Hiddleston. If that happens, remember, you read it here first.

There's another thing interesting about the whole time travel situation. The anomaly, Captain America. In The Avengers Loki called Steve Rogers as a soldier displaced in time. Or something like that, I'm paraphrasing. It's a huge speculation that Captain America will hit the bucket after Avengers 4. The primary reason being Cap's actor, Chris Evans' contract expires, and he's pretty adamant that's it for him. And how else do we say farewell to Cap than an epic self-sacrifice? Round 2 with Thanos, most likely? This doesn't mean Captain America would die though. Marvel is a cheerful movie and giving us a bitter finale doesn't seem their style. Even for the Captain America trilogy, which always had a bitter ending, but there would always be a sign of hope. 

In The First Avenger everyone thought Cap was dead. He later wakes up in the modern age. In Winter Soldier his best friend doesn't remember him and the entire organization SHIELD is actually HYDRA. Natasha Romanoff destroys the SHIELD/HYDRA and the Winter Soldier saves Cap from drowning. And then in Civil War, the Avengers had a bad breakup, but in the end of it all, Steve Rogers sent Tony Stark a cell phone, and told him that if he needs help, they will be there.

See the pattern with Captain America? Sad/dark/bitter endings but always with hope. In Avengers 4, I'm calling it, Captain America will disappear and everything will think he's dead. Only for Steve Rogers to wake up back in World War II, just in time for his date with Agent Carter.

Damn! But what would THAT mean?

Probably the complete destruction of all the MCU movies. If Captain America woke up back in the past with all his memories in tact, he could save Bucky. Which will prevent Bucky from ever murdering Tony Stark's parents. This won't mean Tony would still be taken as a hostage that would eventually turn him into Iron Man, but he could be a different person. 

If Cap didn't exist in the modern world, the Civil War wouldn't have happened and that would have meant Rhodey would have never gotten paralyzed. Rhodey's injury case was one of the things Doctor Stephen Strange dismissed before his accident that led him to seek out a treatment that would turn him into the Sorcerer Supreme. Without the Civil War, Tony would have never gone to recruit Spider-Man. 

There's a lot of interconnecting stuff out there.

I doubt this is all going to happen. But if it does, hey, at least we have a soft reboot.

Okay, fine, great, what does this mean for Ant-Man?

Ant-Man will have a third movie, for sure, and he will appear in other crossover movies. He's never really given a chance to shine - truly shine and show how important he really is not only to the Avengers series but to the entire MCU. Tiny guy, big impact.

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